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Aborting disabled babies

Often people don’t realise how late abortion is carried out in the UK. Over the last four years, there have been repeated calls to restrict the abortion limit, on the grounds that aborting babies at six months (24 weeks) is appalling as babies can survive if born at that stage. But how many people are aware that the 1967 Abortion Act also permits babies to be aborted right up to the moment of birth if the baby has a ‘serious’ disability?

Newborn baby

A newborn baby - moments after the cut-off point for aborting a disabled baby


 

‘Serious disability’ is not defined in law and is notoriously ambivalent. The case of a baby aborted at 28 weeks on grounds of cleft palate provoked widespread public outcry. Other publicised cases of babies being aborted for minor disabilities include reports that over 100 babies were aborted in a single region of the UK for club foot and cleft palate over a three year period. And these are the cases we know about. How many more babies with treatable or manageable disabilities are aborted each year, without any public oversight?   

 

28 week baby

The principle behind the Disability Discrimination Act is laudable, but how can this statute coexist with abortion legislation which discriminates fatally against people with disabilities, making a negative judgement about the person with disabilities, simply on the basis of their disability?

How many babies with disabilities could go on to live fulfilled lives, if they were given medical treatment and the support that should be their right under existing anti-discrimination laws? And how many parents are pressurised into aborting their baby on grounds of disability when they wanted to continue with the pregnancy?

Tell us what you think…

If you are disabled or know someone who is, or if you have been faced with a diagnosis of disability during pregnancy, do you think that babies with disabilities should have the same rights and protection as babies without disabilities? Should the abortion law be changed?

Is the information and support given to parents during pregnancy following a diagnosis of disability adequate? Is it acceptable for a doctor to recommend an abortion following a diagnosis of disability? Should babies be subjected to diagnostic tests, which may be inaccurate or cause disability or miscarriage, if the only intention of the test is to detect disability and abort the baby?

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    God this makes me sick, i can not understand why someone would want to murder their babies… i do understand that in very serious cases such as extreme spinabiffida (i spelt that wrong) that life itself would be cruel. But it costs about £100 to treat a cleft palate… people are valuing these babies lives at less than £100 oh it makes me sick. angry

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    Andrea Bocelli..arguably the worlds greats living tenor was born with congenital glaucoma. He became almost completely blind by the age of 12…

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    I feel that if a doctor who many still mistakenly view as a complete expert, tells a pregnant woman that her baby will be better off dead then the woman may feel pressured to go against her better instincts and go with that recommendation.
    Sadly the percieved authority of doctors can put an invisible pressure on the patient to conform. Also the parent may feel guilty that if they keep their baby they are subjecting it to a life of hell, so their options seem very limited. It is time that the instinct and love of the mother was given the respect that it deserves, and the medicalisation of creating and maintaining life cutailed.

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    I work with children who have a range of disabilities and what a gift they are! What saddens me is that medical ‘professionals’ are all too keen to paint the negative picture (he/she will never be able to . . .). In my own experience, the children are only too happy to prove them wrong.

    If we continue to abort babies at every stage of pregnancy justified by potential limitations of disability, should we then execute all those who, in the course of their lives, become disabled? It may sound absurd but what is the difference – life is life and not for us to decide on what constitutes quality.

    It is an EXTREME example of the throw-away society in which we live.

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    To be honest, there is nothing wrong with aborting a servearly disabled child. If the life of the child id going to be filled with trials and tribulations and overall be painfull; then ending it BEFORE it starts seems like a good road to take, don’t you?

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    Assistant Editor Says:
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    Edvard, potential suffering cannot be a reason to end a child’s life. The assumption that ‘disability = poor quality of life’ is seriously flawed – many physically healthy children are born that will almost certainly live lives of immense emotional suffering, just as there are many severely disabled children born that bring immense joy to their families despite the hardships (take David Cameron’s comments on his severely disabled son, recently.)

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    People abort them because diseases such as Downs Syndrome cost £26000 per year and more, and be a financial and time burden on the parents.

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    Assistant Editor Says:
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    You are talking about a human being, not a disease.

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    Edvard you need to read the published writings of Derick Parfitt, maybe then you take a different view towards what is essentially practising eugenics.

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    abortion is wrong no matter what! Even people with diseases at least want a CHANCE to live, how would you feel if you never got to live at all.

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    I think it terrible, My family have had 2 sort of issues happened with doctors recommending abortions for no need.

    1)My sister in law was told “both” her children boy and girl were at huge risk of having downs, and the doctor spoke about abortion, My sister law, Went on to have two very healthy ,very load, very happy son and daughter.
    2)My mother was 32 when she found out she was having me, already having three boys, the moment the doctor told my mother that she was having me, in her next breath the doctor offered my mother an abortion.
    To say my mother was very hurt, All of my parents children have been well looked after,well educated and they never taken anything from the goverment.
    My mother was so mad at the doctor she never saw her again, i think in this day and age she would have made a complaint but this was 28years.
    I don’t understand how doctors can be fighting to save a 24week baby on one floor of a hospital and ending a 24week life on the other.

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    Annie 1981, what is very scary is that the downs syndrome tests are only around 50% accurate. Had your sister in law not been the brave woman she was then she may have aborted based on what isn’t even a conclusive test.

    It disgusts me that they are now attempting to develop tests to see if a child is autistic in the womb. It sickens me that the doctors who vow to save and preserve life now use the skill of science to attempt what they believe is a ‘perfect’ human being. God did not give us science so that we could destroy the world as we are doing.

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    Just wondering if you have had a browse of your own video link posted above? If you’re putting forward the argument that aborting severely disabled babies should not be an option I think you should consider revising it. Life for severely disabled children would be extremely cruel and most probably short lived. However, I do feel as if those with conditions such as down’s and autism do not always come under the category of severely disabled. Many of those born with such conditions do go on to live full happy lives even if it is not in context with what some may judge as a full standard living (and this could be considered quite an ignorant view to take on). However, giving the prospective parents the opportunity to decide on whether or not they wish to take on the responsibility of a child with such conditions is done so not purely because of judgements regarding standards of living. It is difficult for those with severe disabilities to reach a state of independence from carers/parents. Therefore, having a severely disabled child is a life long responsibility, which will inevitably affect the parents own quality of life. Although some may say this affect is a positive one, unfortunately not everyone is prepared to deliver such a high level of continuous care. Comparing the process to eugenics is extreme as it is not forced. Parents are allowed the opportunity to make an informed choice and they are made aware of the potential for error in the screenings.

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    I had a termination at 24 and a half weeks gestation. My much loved son was diagnosed with the most severe form of spina bifida and would not have survived outside the womb. It was the most terrible decision of my life to make but I am glad I had the choice to make it. If I had carried him to term and if he had survived the birth, he would hae suffered immensely. He would have been blind and deaf. I cannot even contemplate a mother sitting watching her beloved baby gasping for air and then eventually dying. It was the kindest thing I could have done for my precious son. Terminations for disabilities have their place. What people try to do is put disabilities into nice neat little pockets but in reality it isnt so black and white. Downs babies often have other major heart conditions and abnormalities associated which greatly affect their lives. I personally wouldn’t terminate a downs baby but I am very grateful that I have the choice.

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    Anna, I’m sorry for your experience, but I think it is wrong to call an abortion ‘kind’. It isn’t a kind procedure to terminate the child’s life.

    There have been some terrible examples of misdiagnosis, where parents have been told the child is disabled and it turns out that the baby isn’t disabled at all.

    In cases where the baby is disabled, they have a right to life too. I believe we need to improve medical care, rather than aborting the child.

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    Caroline Says:
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    I disagree with you Lucy – if the alternative is that the child’s life will be shortlived, and filled with nothing but pain and suffering, sadly to let the child die may be the kinder option. It is naive to think that improvements in medical care will provide some miracle cure for severely disabled babies.

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    Caroline, I disagree – what you describe ‘let the child die’ is a euphemism – it isn’t about letting the child die, abortion is directly killing the child. It is an unpleasant procedure which involves dismembering the child. It is an attack on the unborn baby. Medicine should do what it can to make the child better or as comfortable as possible, but should never attack a child.

    You say it is naive to believe that medical science can provide a miracle cure – but paediatricians are making advances all the time, and there are examples on this website of babies that are described as miracles.

    Even if that is not the case, I cannot see how directly destroying the child can be justified. We don’t kill the diasbled once they are born, and it isn’t justifiable before birth.

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    this is sick this is wat my baby looks like now i am 28 weeks too, ok so the baby has something wrong wiv it but for crying out loud at least have it n put it up for adoption give the baby a chance at life how can anyone kill a baby at this stage i am totally agaisnt abortions unless its in the first few weeks and or baby life or mums life is at risk but to kill a baby at 28weeks cus it is disabled is MURDER…

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    fair enough, but if a babay (not sayin yours is) is propa disabled, and wont be able to do things for itself, or have any quality of life, isn’t it better to put it out of its misery before it has to suffer?
    Kinda being cruel to be kind

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    To all of you who say aborting a disabled baby is cruel, not one of you gave a disabled child. i do and it is for that reason i agree with abortion. You can never know how much it breaks my heart to see him so ill, knowing that he will live as long as you or I, but having no quality. He can do nothing my himself other than breathe and never will. he is fed through a tube and cannot move. His life will never get better. Is that something you’d put your child through? 80 or so years of that? Have a heart. I love my son to the end of the world but if I got pregnant again and got told the baby was disabled, I’d abort simply because I cannot watch another child of mine go through that. He brings joy to my life, but has now also ruined it. I can never work, see friends or have other babies simply because he takes up 24 hours of my day. Its not just the babies life is ruined by disability, its the parents too. Though I love my son, if I could end his misery I would and I’d feel no guilt for that

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    My aunt was told that her baby was most likely going to be born with down syndrome. She was heart broken and thought about aborting him, but didn’t. He was not born with down syndrome as the doctor’s predicted. Need I say more? I am 28 weeks pregnant with my third child right now and there is nothing that a doctor could tell me that would keep me from having my baby. That is because my faith is in God, not doctors. I do realize however that not everyone shares that same faith.

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    Personally by reading this.
    A human is a human whether or not their child has a disbility or doesn’t.
    They deserve to live, yea it might be hard on the parents and society possibly. But thats YOUR child whom you are giving life to so to just stop it by aborting (murdering) your baby, maybe you should actually think twice and think “what if i was that baby?”
    Because as far as im concerned i see kids with disbilities and etc living life so i don’t see what the problem is.
    Maybe their just ashamed because their kid idn’t come out the way they wanted.
    But sad to say, you can’t always get what you want outta life things just happens because thats how its suppose to be.

    Morally its wrong so people say, than why do they partake in the action of destroying a life.ridiculous.

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    This is sick…aborting a baby because of things like a cleft or club foot! I have a cleft lip and palate and I turned out just fine…I am also expecting and just had a second ultrasound to see if she has a cleft…she doesn’t but I could never imagine murdering her because of something that can very easily be fixed after birth…its just wrong…

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    this is sickning . and its so sad to becasue the ones that are disabled are the ones that make a bigger impact in the world then normal people . i sat here and saw pictures and they just made me sick by looking at them , there are women out there who want to experience this amazing gift why not just give the baby up for adoption?

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    reading all of these posts makes me sick. I consider a baby as a perfect human life the moment its conceived. No matter how many weeks you are, abortion is murder. Who are we to act as if we are God. It is up to him to give life or take life away. That is just my belief. A mother should always put her childs life ahead of her own. Not the other way around. Aborting (killing) your own baby…. its disgusting. What kind of mother would you be? Its a living baby, inside or outside the womb. If your baby came early at 24 or 28 weeks, would you murder it once he was here? No, so why do it in the womb. I never have understood abortion and how any human with any emotions or natural mother instinct could go thru with that. I understand that having a disabled child would be extremely difficult to handle etc, but God chose you to be that childs mother for a reason… who are you to refuse it? I know everyone has different beliefs, but just wanted to share mine. God bless all the aborted babies and I pray for forgiveness of their mothers. I hope they are now special angels watching over us.

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    My mother tried for years to conceive another child. When she conceived me, at six months they told her I would probably be born with cerebral palsy. They didn’t have a definite answer, but suggested she abort. My mother refused, and for that I owe her my life in more ways than one.
    If I were to conceive a child I knew had a disability, I know in my heart that I couldn’t abort it. I may never be able to give it the life it needs, but I’ll be sure to bust my ass and get it done, or find a family that wants to, and can do more than I ever can.

    Just because a baby has a disability doesn’t make it any less worthy of a life.

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    unless you have had a child with a disability i dont think you can make a judgement my son was born with one of the most severe cleft lip and palates it was just a big hole in his face i didnt know he was going to be born cleft because had i known and told i could have aborted him i dont honestly know if ai would have.
    My son is now 24 had some 10 opps but still managed to attend a mainstream school where he went on to gain 9 gcses all as and bs and then onto college were he got 4 a levels as and bs a 2-1 honours law degree from liverpool uney then onto chester law school to get his lpc but its now that the problem starts because he is finding it so hard in finding a training contract but as he says he will fight on if not for himself for other born like him i hope this might help people who may get told that their baby is cleft that the child can achive in life and by the way he spekes perfectly unlike my spelling every body take care

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    this is disgusting in the bible it says any person that raises a child with disabilities will be blessed besides i have a lil girl and how can you do this im young and my life is tough but even if my child was disabled i would love her the same this is a gift from God and its a human being…the baby has been fighting to survive in its mother whomb and in the end itz own mother decides to kill it thats disgusting but at least those lil angels arent suffering anymore!!!!!

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    if you dnt want the baby put it for aboption im sure it will find a nice home where it will get a lot of love and actually have a chance in life to become somebody!!!

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    I am going through a termination procedure for multiple abnormalities. I don’t want to do this procedure. If it was just one abnormality I would not terminate. I am not even really concerned with the physical stuff, but the possibility of both mental retardation and severe physical disability pushes me over the edge. I made the decision after talking to people, who lived with taking care of disabled children. They said it will consume your whole life. One of you will have to stay home. The financial cost is also astronomical. The divorce rate rises dramatically in comparison to the general population. Three different people hinted at this. For those of you who turned out okay, after the “doctors” said something different, I just have to say you were very lucky. Not everyone is that lucky and you could have been born a vegetable. And on the subject of adoption, it is true, there are some people willing to adopt a disabled child. However, as others have pointed out to me. Their are institutions that have hundreds of unwanted disabled adults, because their parents died off. I do not doubt that I could care for a disabled child, but who will carry the burden after me. I can’t think of anyone. Just to clarify, I am talking about kids who are really disabled. ie they have multiple/major disabilities and would require the care of others. Those kids cannot take care of themselves and nobody is able to care for them. They are in mental institutes and are being taken care of by the government. My friend said to me, if I did not volunteer there, they would have noone. I cried on the inside. It’s easy to say I won’t have an abortion because of faith. But for every good case there are horrific cases as well. For the people who say never, are you currently taking care of a severely disabled child. Have you given up your whole life. Are you lucky enough to have a husband or wife that can support the situation, both emotionally and financially. There is an issue here of responsibility. Are you willing to give all your free time to a disabled person. What if the child has to be fed with a spoon all of it’s life. I wonder if the people who are so against aborting severely disabled babies are willing to do that. I talked to people, who actually did it and took care of a severely disabled person. If a child will have the “possibility” of being severely disabled, you have to think, do you want to put another human being through all it. It’s not an easy decision. For people deciding on aborting for one disability, you need to think long and hard about your decision as others have suggested. There is no right or wrong answer. It’s a tough choice that no human being should have to go through.

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    “I am going through a termination procedure for multiple abnormalities. I don’t want to do this procedure…..”

    The procedure ended up being called off. It was a very tough decision. And either way, it would have been the right decision.

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    for someone: … You cannot know the future. Reality is never as scary as the unknown … Don’t be frightened. I was terrified when I found out I was expecting a down’s syndrome baby-turns out the baby was my son, who has down’s syndrome. I had the same worries as you.

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    I am really sorry that you have been put in such a difficult situation. I understand that you are seeing a ‘no win’ situation where your baby is likely to be severely disabled and facing the starkness of inadequate support. Nobody would envy you such a tough situation. However, if a lot of people in your situation terminate, there will be no services for the disabled because they will be viewed as ‘better off dead’. People will judge women as ‘selfish’ if they make the decision to give birth to live, disabled babies, rather than supporting them. This creates a vicious circle so that there is less and less help available. Many disabled organisations are campaigning as they face the realisation that when people are killed because they are disabled, this is the ultimate discrimination against the disabled.

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    I am disabled with Autism, Dyspraxia, Dyslexia and other health issues, life is a pain and its difficult, very difficult but ALL disabled people have a right to life, anyone can become severely handicapped at any time in their life by accident, illness etc. My dad was a very capable man and highly intelliegnt but he now has Parkinsons and Dementia and then you get some people who get brain injured or ill, we don`t solve the problem of dealing with society`s handicapped and ill by killing them, we have a duty to protect and care for them. I am also unable to have children ( barren) and would love to have had them but my current mental health means I can`t adopt. Like i say my life is difficult, I cannot work, have a family and have a struggle each day but if my mum had been told way back in 1966, “Oh your kid is going to grow up with alot of pain and suffering” it still would not give her the right to abort, we all get pain and trauma its called life, its mostly diffiuclt is life I think but killing off the frail and ill and handicapped is wrong.

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    When people say they will terminate/abort what I hear them saying is ‘killing is the answer’, but life isn’t like that. Here’s a abstract example I know but take the iraq war blair thought war & killing the bad guys would solve the broblem, but life is never that simple, killing was not & is never the answer. When you kill you don’t just take a life out of this world, you give a powerful message to all in the community plus yourself & that message is always bad. Using the excuse of lack of money/time etc is not a reason to kill; it’s just the desperate looking for excuses to make life convenient for them. Ideals of 2 parent realtionships/jobs etc are just superstitions, they are not needed, yet people still use such excuses to free themself from their duty of care. People are so obsessed with the ‘quality of life’ theory that they even forget that the ‘quality of life’ argument is just a guise for ensuring the population is fit enough to carry out it’s purpose of earning money & contributing to the economy. But unborn human beings are not our shakled property & I can’t believe we are still tollerating them being treated as such. I know it’s a hard nosed thing to say but the economy will never trust you unconditionaly, expect you alone to keep it from death, fill you with love from a mere look or say ‘I love you mummy’. There was a time when it was understood killing (aborting) was irresponsible & seeking the help of others was the responsible thing. Where did it all go so wrong.

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    Hunter's Mommy Says:
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    To all those considering abortion out there because of birth defects I offer you my situation: My baby boy was born with AV Malformation. I know this doesn’t mean much to you as it didn’t to me when I first heard it. The blood vessels in his brain had not formed correctly. His body was going into complete organ failure as his heart tried desperatly to supply his brain with blood, and deliver the rest of the body the blood it needed. Basically the mass of veins that weren’t supposed to be in his head were killing him slowly. His disease is so rare, a nurse in a very busy NICU of over 25 years had never seen such a case. Nor have they seen another since my boy. Imagine how freightening it was for me having to have a c-section delivery, and the nurses coming and telling me my boy was going into heart failure. Then coming back an hour or so later liver failure, kidney failure…
    I couldn’t even get out of bed. I had only held my child once.
    Now imagine almost three years later a perfectly healthy, strong little boy no one thought would live. He is absolutley gorgeous, and full of life. The life I gave him. He still even at this age gets compliments on how beautiful he is. I believe this is because he was so special in God’s eyes too. He is the light of my life. And, yes a baby with complications will fill your entire life up, but a healthy baby does that too! You wouldn’t have it any other way. I could not imagine not having my baby come up to me, and say “Love you mama” every night before bed. Imagine if he was that baby you are carrying, and you knew of his problems before hand. Would you take his life from him? He may still have some side effects as he grows older, but none of that matters now. He is my angel, and indeed loved as one no matter what his problems. I hope you choose life for your child as well. No matter how hard it may seem, or indeed will be, there is no greater joy than being a mom. You will know that the very moment your child looks into your eyes. There are couples out there who will adopt a baby with complications, even severe complications. Go to lds.org There are a lot of couples there looking for children if you can’t take care of your baby, but choose to give them life. A chance. They might just suprise you.

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    I agree with abortion to a point but i was 3 months early and one of twins i am fine and my sister is disabled. in a way i think its sad that they can abort children up to 24 weeks because i managed to survive 25 years ago and there have been so many advancements since then. but i do happen to agree that i may be a fairer option to abort a desabled child but im talking a child that cant move or feed themselvs or breathe without tubes not a deaf child of downs

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    I’m 28 wks pregnant, I would like to think that I will give this child the best of opportunities in life irregardless of the outcome of their birth. I can only hope and pray that my child is well and healthy when he or she is born, like my other two children. Abortion would never be an option. But I am also a farmer and I have seen many animals at different stages of pain and distress due to disease, horrific accidents, old age and birth defects. I have fought for long hours to save many animals but there often comes the point where you realise you are causing more pain and suffering and when a happy outcome becomes impossible there is the hard decision to euthanasia. Maintaining animals in a chronic state of pain and distress is considered cruelty and fully punishable by the courts, but to maintain a human under the same conditions is not! I find this shocking. Personally I could not abort a child on the grounds that there is always hope that their life will not be painful as predicted. I think though that in some circumstances there are grounds for euthanasia when I person is in a constant state of unalterable pain or life can only be maintained through extreme and invasive mechanical means.

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    Kathleen Garner Says:
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    I don’t think anyone, no matter how severely disabled, would ever have chosen abortion for themselves. Even suicidal people would choose to have been given life first!

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    I can’t believe some of the pathetic excuses people will use to justify the killing of human beings. Compassion Ha! Then why does that so called compassion fill me with pain & fear then. I could become seriously ill or have a serious accident while pregnant, be left unable to move or communicate. Then have some so called doctor decide it’s in my & my preborn childs interest to have a meeting to decide whether it’s best to kill us. They must really feel they are some kind of gods to dare feel they should ever be allowed to decide let alone action such a thing, NO I DO NOT WANT US TO BE KILLED. I would want a doctor who did their job & took away my pain or sedated me & nurses who did their job & cared for us. Why should they decide whether we are worthy of this! As a human being surely to be cared for when in need is the least we should expect. To be told in no uncertain terms that I should feel undignified or a drain on resources if needing treatment is sick & inhumane. Why are people taught these days to worship the economy & forsake their human kind. If I loose the power of communication, my & my preborns life will literally be in the hands of a mainly pro-murder society. I could never have imagined as a child that one day I would discover I &/or my preborn could ever be murdered by our own kind in the name of compassion. To know I have paid for this to happen in taxes makes me sick & I am definitely on strike.

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    If you have other kids and you were 23 weeks pregnant and the consultant dr tells you that your baby has no water (anhydramnios) and therefore the lungs will not develop and that they will be severely handicapped and then they recommend a cvs which they tell you is 99% accurate and after 2 days they tell you your baby has also got down syndrome. You would not want to believe it at first and that there must be some mistake. My friend stongly wanted to believe that the ultrasound couldn’t see anything much because she was obese not anhydramnios. Dr and midwife insisted diagnosis was correct and that only with anhydramnios baby would only live for one hour at full term. Then the down syndrome result came after 2 days cvs and doctors said it was 99. 5 % accurate at 23 weeks pregnancy. Should she keep the baby knowing that it might be too much to burden the rest of the family or keep the child knowing what doctors describe as zero percent chance of survival. And why would they encourage terminaton if the child would not survive? What would you do?

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    I could not of even considered abortion and can’t really imagine why anyone else would either, not after you see the angle of a face your child has with or without disabilities. I had my first child at 18 yrs old he was born at 22 wks and 3 days gestion. All the doctors told me that I shouldn’t have him revived and let him die because he has no chance of survival and if by chance he did survive he would be a so mentally retarded he wouldn’t amount to anything.. well let me tell you my boy is now 4yrs old almost 5 and yes he has his problems and he is behind for his age but he is the best thing that ever happend to me and he has taught me so much throughout his life.. I wouldn’t ever consider losing the perfect little smiles, the I LOVE YOU’s or night night or the few new words or phrases he learns every week. Me along with mmy husband are the reason my son crawls why he talks and why he is still able to talk to breaths that he takes and would of never changed that for anything not even a doctor telling me that he would be disabled. Then i went on the have two more children born at 32wks and 35wks both early and without complications other than low birth weight and you know the docs told me to abort because the same thing was going to happen to them and my response was GOD WILL NEVER PUT MORE ON YOUR SHOULDERS THAN YOU CAN HANDLE!!!!! and EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON!!!!! so the next time you are thinking of aborting a child because they may have some kind of mental or physical deformaty or just because you are thinking of the money its going to cost you SHAME ON YOU for thinking only of yourself.

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    Mia, it is unclear if you are talking about a ‘real life’ scenario as your story seems incredible. If I were the mother, I would ask the doctors the point of doing the Down Syndrome test when I had already been told that the baby had no hope of surviving more than one hour. I would have the baby in the hope that the tests were wrong (this is not unknown). Even if the tests were accurate, I would prefer to give a loving goodbye to the baby. I would want to hug the baby in its very brief life rather than shoot poison into its heart. On the subject of the ‘burden’ to the rest of the family: if the baby lives for one hour, and the children see this positive caring for their tiny brother or sister, surely that is better than lying to them by not telling them about the baby or telling them that their parents and doctors have killed their brother or sister.

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    ON STRIKE Says:
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    Mia- as I have killed before I can say with absolute certainty that people were not meant to kill. Should someone have a choice to kill for compassion NO OF COURSE NOT, NO MATTER WHAT THE EXCUSE OR REASONING.

    Firstly who are we to decide how long a person must live in order for their life to have been worth it for them or us. This argument can only benefit us, as in the sense of how much time/money we are spending on caring for them. Doctors will often recommend abortion claiming that it is for compassion, but many suspect it has more to do with the intensive care bugdet/resources. You can’t look at life & say you will have pain every moment you are alive & then die. Physical pain can be managed & if this were my child I would demand they did, this is where I would threaten to sue & when threatened with the loss of greater finances I’m sure coincidentaly the meds would come. You hear of children undergoing much painfull treatment in incubators & being unable to express pain. The sad truth is though often unless a patient can prove they are suffering, meds are expensive & so will often not be given. Especially to unborn & babies as they can not provide evidence of suffering.

    I would make the short life my child had one they would be proud of. I would fight for them & be on their side all the way. I would never betray my child, or side with doctors & kill my child.

    The mental torture of forever knowing you killed your child is not one that should ever be lawfully allowed on anyones mind. To have to live with the knowlegde is to allow the state to punish you forever, it should not be a choice a civilized society would afford you. Sadly democracy doesn’t bring a civilised, healthy, responsible or respectful society though & don’t we know it.

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    I was forced into having an abortion 15 years ago, by my parents, GP, Nurse – everyone who thought I was to young to make a reasonable decision myself. They thought having a baby would ruin my life. How wrong could they be, infact the abortion almost ruined my life. I have suffered severely for the role I played in killing my precious baby, she never leaves my thoughts. I also suffered medical problems after the abortion resulting in infertility. Due to this I had years of investigations and failed IVF treatments. Luckily I am now a very happy mother of 2 amazing children whom I have adopted. They are everything to me and I appreciate them so much.
    A message to those considering abortion – dont underestimate the emotional impact of abortion.

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    Jozef Bubez Says:
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    This is a difficult case but we can never do anything deliberately to end the life of an unborn child. All life is God-given; even those disabled. Yes, in such circumstances, a child may well not survive but we would be very wrong to hasten its death.

    Jozef

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    For everyone who thinks that if a baby is born with a disability will only have a life full of pain and suffering must not have had a very good childhood. I work with disabled kids and they are the sweetest, happiest people i know. Yes, they will go through a lot because of it but the love that their parents shower them in makes up for at least part of it. I don’t believe in abortion at any time because I don’t believe it’s our place to decide who lives and who dies. As far as I’m concerned, the woman already made her decision when she decided to have sex. But for abortions to be carried out to the point that the baby could survive on it’s own is disgusting. I don’t know at what point the government decided it was ok for people to decide who lives and who dies with no other justification than there’s a possibility that there could be a poblem but it’s just showing how little value there is in human life.

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